January 2, 2015 at 7:03 PM #15203January 2, 2015 at 7:03 PM #14794
I really, really would love to get tabs and instruction for playing James Bryans tune, Farewell Trion.January 2, 2015 at 8:28 PM #14796
ME TOO !
here it is for all BGD friends to get inspired.
I m IN , when Johns got an opening , I`ll pay the song request fae :O)
It is worth more though…January 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM #14802
hello, so how goes it now ? Unh Hunr arrrr, after watching the video 13 times or so and cried ! a little you know, I googled it and found the sheet music. Read it 13 times or so just with rhythm only, and noticed it was in C or A min, hum ?. So after playing C scale couple times, how nice of a song, got lost with the bowing. What a groove though hunh !!!…That old subtle bounce like feel.
Hope this is ok with abc notation site. Yikes .
Thanks, its one of my new favorite songs of 15, where have I been?Not to have hear this one before. Thanks BGD :O)
January 2, 2015 at 11:24 PM #14809
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Thanks for posting that video, Gu. It sounds nice! :)January 2, 2015 at 11:31 PM #14813
I watched the Farewell Trion video, and saw this link next. I thought, now that’s a creative use of fiddling — I’d like to do that one day. (Too bad about the surprise ending!)
EDITORS NOTE: THIS VIDEO WAS TAKEN DOWN BY YOUTUBE, PERHAPS BECAUSE OF THE HORRIFYING ENDING. A FIDDLER WAS PLAYING FOR A DANCER ON THE SIDEWALK WHEN ONE OF THE DANCER’S FLAILING ARMS SLAPPED THE FIDDLE FROM HIS HANDS. IT STRUCK THE SIDEWALK WITH A SOUND THAT WOULD SURELY PUT YOU OFF YOUR LUNCH. YOU WILL HAVE TO USE YOUR IMAGINATION.
January 3, 2015 at 12:51 AM #14817
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Kevin, that was so painful! Fortunately no real harm done. This was at the “Bear on the Square” festival in Dahlonega for all of you visiting north Georgia this April. It is a fun festival, and one of the earliest of the year.
Gu, thank you for posting the video and the music. I am putting this one on my list to teach. I have played it before, it is very beautiful.January 3, 2015 at 4:38 PM #14840
It is on my list of, “would love John to do a lesson on”. I have the sheet music but just can’t get it close to James Bryan sound.January 3, 2015 at 5:20 PM #14852
Thanks Bruce. I’ll work on getting this one out! I is high on my list of old-time tune requests, along with “Chinquapin Hunting” and others.January 3, 2015 at 6:08 PM #14856
Thanks so much for posting this pretty tune! I’ll have to put it on my list of this week’s songs to learn. I’m new here and I am loving the website!January 4, 2015 at 12:06 AM #14867
Hi TexasRose and welcome! I’ve had lots of requests for Rose of San Antone as well…January 6, 2015 at 12:53 PM #15048
Hi TexasRose, glad you are here, love this one me too, I just got through site reading at 60 bpm, no specific bowing yet, but I am sure John will put up a perfect bowing tab for us all. Trying to memorize the tune without getting too attached to the right way old time feel bowing, but was able to watch the video enough times to see he slides the D down to a C in the opening line, and I am just guessing my best here, from all the lessons here at BGD, I learned from John that shuffle bowing plays a significant role in eight note runs. I ts such a nice song , I cant wait. There is a mystery in the song and a natural suspenseful sustain almost like when fishing on a quiet lake waiting for the bite.
I would like to add also, that this song is a great way of learning the C pentatonic scale. Hope I got that right JOhn? In any case it is a beautiful run up and down the fiddle, very Flows with the river song.January 6, 2015 at 6:32 PM #15067
Gu, that is a great way to describe it — mystery! The more I listen to this one, the more I love it. Arwen tabbed it for me today and I just made some jam tracks for it. I will make a lesson for this song tonight, hope to have it up tomorrow or Thursday.January 6, 2015 at 9:15 PM #15083
Most of you probably already know this but here is a great site for some of the old favorite tunes (http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk). A lot of them are in Mandolin tab which is easily converted, unless you are like me, Mandolin to Fiddle tab still makes me go duh. Anyhow I have never seen a reference to this so thought I would mention it for any unaware.
Of course this will never replace our Beloved St. John, aka BGD, we will always need his expertise to guide us properly!
Happy New Year
David B.January 6, 2015 at 9:41 PM #15093
That is a fantastic resource, David, thank you for linking to it! Here are so many great sites out there:
Find tons of tunes at tunearch.org
Gu got the notation above at abcnotation.com. This is another great site.
My favorite site for fiddle tune info is iBiblio.org:
According to iBiblio, “Old‑Time, Breakdown. USA, Alabama. G Major (Carlin): C Major (Kuntz, Phillips). Standard tuning. AABC (Kuntz): AA’AA’BB’C (Phillips). Played slower than the usual breakdown tempo. The primary source for the tune is fiddler Mack Blalock (1914-1987), of Mentone, Alabama, who had it “from his great‑uncle Joe Blaylock (b. 1854) who composed it upon returning to Alabama after getting laid off from a mill in Trion, Georgia. James Bryan added a third part to the tune” (Old‑Time Herald, . 1, No. 6, Winter 1988‑89). In addition to his uncle Joe, Mack learned many tunes from his aunt Annie Blalock of Lookout Mountain, and uncles Alfred and Henry Blalock. Source for notated version: James Bryan (Ala.) with Bob Carlin [Phillips]. Kuntz, Private Collection. Phillips (Traditional American Fiddle Tunes), Vol. 2, 1995; pg. 49. Rounder 0197, Bob Carlin ‑ “Banging and Sawing” (1985).”January 6, 2015 at 9:49 PM #15096
OK fiddlers you can download the official BDG music and MP3s (the best on the web!) for Farewell Trion by going to the Sheet Music page and the MP3 page. Enjoy!January 6, 2015 at 10:04 PM #15100
THANKS!!! You are amazing! And thanks again to Arwen for her mad tabbing skills!January 6, 2015 at 11:56 PM #15107
Wow, thanks so much John and Arwen, I finally got the tune down on my own, well on mandolin, just to memorize , NOW , I get the mp3 and sheet music, I didn’t check for bowing . Just checked , AND THE BOWING YES !
OH Thanks so much, (the best on the web!)
yeeeeeeehaw…super happy… :O)
GuJanuary 8, 2015 at 2:43 AM #15250
No problem, Gu and Angela! It was a very fun lesson to teach. Thanks dleemurphy for the request! JohnJanuary 8, 2015 at 3:40 AM #15254
Hi David. Happy New Year! Thanks for posting that link. It is a great resource! You would think a UK site like that would be leaning more towards fiddle tabs than mandolins tabs… but… stranger things have happened in that part of the world!January 8, 2015 at 2:33 PM #15278
WOW, can I write WOW any bigger ?! :O) The lesson too !!!Oh be blessed John and thank you dleemurphy for the request :O)
GuJanuary 8, 2015 at 4:06 PM #15282
:) You’re welcome Gu!January 8, 2015 at 11:30 PM #15293
John do you memorize all these new tunes (like this new one) in order to play them? Or do you read a little music while playing, or do you know them already? It seems like a ton of memorization work in only a few days….January 9, 2015 at 12:43 AM #15300
Great question Kevin. I memorize all tunes before performing them. It wasn’t so easy at first! However, because I have learned hundreds of tunes, this is very easy for me. It generally takes me listening two times through before I memorize a standard tune. In a jam session, I can typically play the song note for note on the third time around.
You all will get faster with each lesson. Sadly enough, you will not need this site after a couple of years, because you will be able to pick up songs at jams or on YouTube easily enough without it. After you graduate from BGDU, I hope you stick around on the forum!
When I teach a lesson, I will usually tab it out before even trying to play it (or else pay Arwen to tab it for me — great way to teach her some theory). Then if it is a fast song, I’ll play it a few times through to “settle” on the bowing before adding bow directions to the tabs. Then I’ll practice it a while before teaching it. By the time I teach the measure-by-measure lesson and play it slowly with the metronome, I know it about as well as I ever will. So I practice it a little more with the jam track then make the live performance video as the final touch of the lesson.
In “Farewell Trion,” The ‘A’ part of the tune is fairly standard, so it only took twice through to learn it. The ‘B’ part is a little different, so it took me a few more times through and some measure counting to learn it. The ‘C’ part is virtually the same as the ‘B’ part to “The 8th of January” (see the video below) so it only took one time through to learn it.January 9, 2015 at 11:50 PM #15384
What a great explanation. I hope to be there someday. All I really want is to be able to sit down with others and add to the overall beauty of the song. I don’t want to graduate from BGDU anytime soon. :)January 10, 2015 at 1:05 AM #15398
Wow, good answer John. It sounded like “after hundreds of tunes, they all start looking the same, and I’ve usually played things like them before, so I do a little expert chunking and pattern matching, patch up mistakes the second time through in real time, and get it right on the third time through. For really new or tough songs, I tab them out and see the notes, try out the bowing, tab it, then have a couple of runs and make a final graduation (lesson) video.”
Hmmm, I guess that means we’ll have to do hundreds of individual tune “courses” before we get our Bachelors at BGDU — so what do you have planned for the Masters and Phd (Piled Higher and Deeper) programs? :-)
After an answer like that, I marvel at the human brain — taking in notes, chords, rhythms, pattern matching and chunk building at successively higher levels, all in real time.
Oh, but you forgot a piece in your answer — on the fourth time through, it’s old hat, so you do some real time breaks and improvisation because now (after 3 times), the tune is boring! :-)January 10, 2015 at 1:15 AM #15399
Hahaha Kevin that’s about right. Though sometimes improvising means that you now know the chords but haven’t learned the melody yet. :)
You are also right in that there is nothing new under the sun. As you learn more tunes, the “chunks” get bigger.January 10, 2015 at 1:19 AM #15400
Me want chunks , arrrr
GU lolJanuary 10, 2015 at 1:11 PM #15435
John said:”You all will get faster with each lesson. Sadly enough, you will not need this site after a couple of years, because you will be able to pick up songs at jams or on YouTube easily enough without it.”
John, this “couple of years” is a joke, right?
I think some of us will be attending BGDU for longer than a couple of years!January 10, 2015 at 3:14 PM #15438
Well, I’ll keep the lessons coming, then! :)February 9, 2015 at 6:02 PM #17093
Ohhhhhhhhh , arrrrrrrrrrrrhhh, just got it, after 2 weeks, It was just the bowing driving me nuts but I m a happy camping squirrel now, feeling like I just climbed a mountain . The cut hair ending is still memorizing me , but I should get that by tomorrow .( the timing ) is all…work on it , work on it…
Thanks , love this tune, can t stop dancing :O)
February 9, 2015 at 7:25 PM #17096
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Yay Gu! OK now you have to leave us an offering in the Lion’s Den! Glad you enjoyed this lesson. John
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