Golden Fiddle Waltz
March 4, 2015 at 6:11 PM #18567
And I’m crawling through the first break of GFW, slowly. After a little more…or a little less crashing, more security in that, I guess it’ll be time to have a look at part 2… A lot harder, I think, but at least I hope I have a foundation.March 5, 2015 at 10:26 PM #18749
I got a chance to practice Golden Fiddle Waltz tonight…I think I should start on the second break tomorrow…I’m being entirely too easy on myself! Oh boy…I have some work to do!March 9, 2015 at 10:50 PM #19141
Cricket, I have noticed that sometimes it does just take a tune a few days to soak in. I like that term!March 10, 2015 at 7:47 AM #19149
Speaking of tunes sinking in, I’m hoping…not fiddling, for a day or two more! I did run through some of the other, pretty easy, stuff I need to play soon, and, WOW…if you push yourself beyond your limits…your usual stuff definitely improves! I was pretty happy with how my old stuff was sounding.March 10, 2015 at 9:41 AM #19151
To quote john on his measure-by-measure lesson: “So there’s that ridiculously hard break…” Something to that effect…I do remember the words, ridiculously hard, because it made me laugh…yeah…I’m glad John sees it as ridiculously hard, because it sure seems that way to me!March 10, 2015 at 7:31 PM #19161
Haha you are right, Cricket, that’s about as hard as bluegrass gets. When I label a tune as “advanced,” I’m not kidding! Good news: Bobby Hicks’ “Faded Love” break is not nearly as hard as it sounds. But it is hard enough to get the “Advanced” label!
Thanks Rock. Your lips are sealed.March 10, 2015 at 9:11 PM #19175
I gave to hurry up and get back to this so I can try the Faded Love. I’ve always like that one but never really learned to play it. I’m sorta stuck now with hardly any time to play. Happens that way sometimes. I think G F Waltz is about the most beautiful thing I’ve ever heard. Even fumbling through making a mess of it is still very touching. It’s just a great tune!August 25, 2015 at 1:31 PM #26412fiddlewoodParticipant
Well, I’ve managed to memorise up to around meas. 35 or so, and get it almost in time & tune.
Hoping to get this last turnaround down today so I can at least fire up the rhythm loop and iron out some timing details.
Pretty amazing what this slower more difficult tune is teaching me about technique, bow pressure/speed, double stops, & such that I didn’t ever pick up from faster tunes. Found I’ve been overplaying the instrument far more than needed, and that the angle of the bow hair has a lot to do with the tone I produce.
I have an awful long way to go yet but am happy with the progress so far.August 25, 2015 at 7:57 PM #26416
Go, Dave, Go! This is a tremendous tune. A friend of mine learned this and played it for me at the Music Fest in Sugar Grove this year. It feels so good to create something that helps fiddlers learn and get better! I learn a lot in the process as well. I can’t wait to hear you playing this!August 25, 2015 at 8:38 PM #26422nagumaqParticipant
I sure do miss Cricket, ?, she was studying and played this one quite well. Very inspiring, hope to get there too some time this year before Christmas season comes around. Then it s deck the halls with bows and holy songs. ?
GuAugust 30, 2015 at 1:47 AM #26491
I miss her too!September 19, 2015 at 8:57 AM #269564tupperParticipant
John – some tunes include more difficult playing techniques. For Golden Fiddle Waltz, clean double stops are important. It would help if an instructional/practice package (i.e. notation/tabs/video) was available for the double stops in this tune. After a person has can play the double stops well, they can move on to learning the complete tune.
I think that this tune would highlight any playing problems a fiddler has. I prefer working on one problem at a time, so for me, getting the double stops sounding right would be the first problem.
I am a new member and consider myself an intermediate level fiddler. I had doubts about joining, but everything is working out fine.August 9, 2017 at 11:54 PM #52638fiddle campParticipant
I’m 17, and I’ve been teaching myself the fiddle for a little over 2 years. This is literally the best website ever, because I’ve always loved this waltz so much, and despite it being beyond my skill level I always wanted to learn it. In fact I wanted to learn it so badly, that I did. I’ve been solidly trying and dedicating so many hours to it that I actually got the hang of it!! Thank you so much John, for taking the time to teach this song. It really is so beautiful.
Lily-RoseAugust 10, 2017 at 12:46 PM #52650
Lily-Rose, I’m sure you must have seen this on youtube, but I’ll post it just in case or for others who may not…can you imagine writing something like this?
& might as well post this as well, for the perfect fiddle wrist…El CumbancheroAugust 10, 2017 at 2:31 PM #52656
Thanks Lily-Rose! I hope to hear you play it someday.August 10, 2017 at 6:18 PM #52663
That is a very nice fiddle tune. I’m so sorry I worked out n it so hard and then lost it…got too busy helping sick people, etc., to practice. Someday…I’ll tackle that one again. Good luck with it, Lily-Rose…I hope you’ll play it for us!August 17, 2017 at 9:53 PM #52863
Well, for motivation, here’s another spin on Golden Fiddle Waltz. I guess everyone hears the timing slightly different in some phrases. This feller does a great job. This is my goal for the next year to see how far I can get on this one, and hopefully nail it down. I can finally get Maiden’s prayer to where it’s not really painful, so maybe…just maybe on this one. It’s good to have a goal for development, and this is definitely one I’m going to hit daily until I get it, although I may have to wait to after Christmas to take it on seriously.August 17, 2017 at 11:23 PM #52864Great ScottModerator
If anyone is SERIOUS about wanting to learn to play this lovely waltz on the fiddle then I suggest they take a gander at the link below… and spend some quality time with the teach by following his fabulous lessons. No other fiddle site will provide you with such comprehensive lessons for this particular tune. This is by far THE BEST version on the tube. Even RH agrees!
Wonderful playing, by the way, John! Filled with tons of emotion. Thank you for such a great lesson and a fantastic website.
Visit: Support_your_fiddle_teacher.orgAugust 18, 2017 at 6:41 AM #52865
Thanks for the link, Rodger…I believe I’ve heard that plus two or three others on YouTube…I do like to see what various musicians do with tunes. I’m finding more and more I can learn a thing, but can’t ever seem to actually play it until I get my own spin attached…get a feel of how I gotta play it. That could just be my lack of fiddling experience dictating my playing…not sure. I know some folks can learn note-by-note and take it from there…seems I can’t feel like I can play a tune until/unless I learn the notes, then let it cook a while on the back burner, then stir it around in my own way later. Dwight Diller, the banjo player in WV, told me once that he thought, just as the old saying goes…you have to eat a peck of salt with a person to really get to know them, the same goes for playing a tune…maybe I agree with him…lol…or maybe I’m just no good. But as retirement has gone for me, it’s been a few good learning times usually followed by forgetting times, in many cases…there’s just been a lot of stuff we’ve had to help out with…we’re the only ones doing good enough to help. Everybody has had a rough way to go with illnesses, hospital stays and doctor visits, losing their homes and needing someplace quick to live, etc. Anyway, I think I’m gonna have to someday start from square one with this again and it’ll be a while and a lot of work from there to get it…I was almost there once, couple years back. Ain’t easy for us old and busy folks….lol. This one’s probably just too hard for me…I can see how it has to be in F to really work out. Well, Scott…I’m betting John is the only one out there with an online lesson to this…unbelievably painstaking to get a lesson together like this! Very thorough and what a great job he did. Rodger…I hope you can get to it by Christmas and see what you can do with it…let us know! Learning this would be a real accomplishment. This is one of those things that divides the pros from the kiddos…except some kids actually already burn this one up…lol…ugh…that’s amazing, and kinda scary…lol.August 18, 2017 at 4:18 PM #52870
Cricket, with this or any of the challenging projects, if you just take it one bar at a time & master that measure, then move on to the next one, don’t rush anything & expect it take awhile…eventually you can get it. But you have to be committed to do that…the returns for the work you put into it will be success..it’s like digging a root cellar (another project I’m trying to do) if you get that one shovel at a time, one after the other, eventually you will have it.
& yes, by all means follow the lesson sheets & lessons. Be about impossible to do it otherwise.
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