Syntetic bowhair

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  • #57675

    Howdy

    I can’t Find earlier Disqus about the syntetic bowhair. I need to Get adwise and experience how it is.

    My dear little Vanja is alergic to Horse and have big problems to follow her intensive  dayly practicetime.

    I have asked many here in Norway, but most Are negative to alternativ. So then Ask my fiddle friends instead:)

     

    #57676
    Rock
    Rock
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    Beorrge!  Hi,  sorry to hear about Vanja’s problem with horse hair.  I don’t know much about synthetic bow hair but here is a link to Amazon.    Good to see ya!!

    https://www.amazon.com/Herco-HE902-Hervex-Violin-Length/dp/B000EEHMDU

    #57680

    Thanks Rrrrrock, good to see U Too.

    I’ll investegate your link.

     

    🤠🎶🎻

    #57683
    Steve Srader
    Steve Srader
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    There is a link here where John demonstrates it I will see if I can find it for you . The following John posted about a year ago there is a video John posted here somewhere . Here’s a link I found on Zarelon hair bows !

    https://www.zaretandsonsviolins.com/bows-for-sale/zarelon-bows-for-sale

    John Cockman

    Keymaster
    You know, I had a really good experience with the Zarelon hair. I would recommend that for a second bow! That way if you are in the rain and your horse hairs fall out, you still have an indestructible bow you can use.

    #57686

    Thank you Steve, I’ll check out your link. 🎶🎻

    #57687
    Steve Srader
    Steve Srader
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    Hey I found Johns video review here it is !!!

    https://youtu.be/admgcWuVHY8

    Here’s the link for the refurbished bow for $50.00 John talks about I think .

    https://www.zaretandsonsviolins.com/bows-for-sale/refurbished-zarelon-bows

    #57726

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    Thanks for posting those links, Rock and Steve.

    Boerge, I’m sorry to hear about Vanja’s alergy. She may be happy with the Zarelon or some other synthetic.

    #57774

    Today I have ordered 2 hanks of Zarelon and will let Vanja try it out:)

    this weekend she at music seminar and having fun.  I helping serve food.

    thanks for all help.

    #57775
    Steve Srader
    Steve Srader
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    Your welcome

    #57779
    ruckydoo
    ruckydoo
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    Bought a new carbon fiber bow and like it but it needs rosining  A LOT.  Is this common?   Sound is okay for a short while then, after a few minutes, requires another swabbing with rosin.   Not too sure what kind of hairs it has as I can’t tell the difference but my old cheapies retain rosin a quite a while longer than the CF.   Is this the proper place to ask a question?

    #57781

    Don’t know… but my Libenzeller gold was not good at Helicore, so change to my old cheap one and get good grip. Maybe rosin and string ?

    #57782
    Steve Srader
    Steve Srader
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    Hey Ruckydoo I am struggling with enough rosin or to much , but if you want to get more rosin into the bow hair , brush it in with a tooth brush re rosin and brush in again as many times as needed , if you draw the bow hair across your thumb nail and it leaves a clearly defined mark on your thumb nail then its loaded , Brushing it in will make it last a lot longer

    #57804
    ruckydoo
    ruckydoo
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    Boerge & Steve

    Thanks to you lads for the tips!   Carry a tooth brush  is my fiddle box for reasons like that but… hadn’t used it.   Tried it and sound improved and I haven’t rerosined yet after playing for hours this AM.

    #57829
    Steve Srader
    Steve Srader
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    Yes Ruckydoo  I think the rosin burns /melts or cakes to the bow hair kind of like it does on the violin strings and brushing it out helps !

    #58231

    Next week Peter Pots in Oslo will rehair Vanja and mine bow with Zarelon. Mine Blue as bluegrass Vanja std. White cause her orcestra and classical play.

    Peter Zaret have linket tips to luthiers so Peter Pots will Get all tips he need to do the change.

    I am really exciting to try out and will come back after the rehair.

    Happy fiddler weekend

    #58242
    Steve Srader
    Steve Srader
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    Good luck I will be looking forward to your review !

    #58252

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    Boerge, I hope it works great. I’ve been happy with my Zarelon hair.

    #58277

    Picture of my bow at Luthier Peter Pots desk. He was impressed

    Sorry Picture not upload from cellphone

    #58285

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    That’s great! Hey if you want to email me the picture of your bow, I will upload and attach it for you.

    john@bluegrassdaddy.com

    #58292

    Send to you John

    #58295

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    Here it is! Now I know why you said Blue for Bluegrass. That’s really cool!

    #58300
    Steve Srader
    Steve Srader
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    Here’s all the different colors ! They also have white LOL

    #58324

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    That’s really fun! I’d say I’d get green next time, but I don’t know if there will be a next time. They last forever!

    #58325
    Steve Srader
    Steve Srader
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    John that’s what I was thinking green to go with the Andrea A Piacere rosin Ha !

    #58366

    Vera want pink, she more like folkmusic like me… I said when she start practice good she will Get pink Zarelon.

    I tried yesterday around 1 hour and I have to say Wow… bite good, could not break a hair even tried hard. My trills become more clear, sound clear and nice, but little Harder then natural hair.

    Come back after used the Zarelon few weeks, but as so fare pretty satisfied and feel it’s worth every $

    John I will send you a pick from yesterday, at coulture school practice Wedding march and Mardigras Song

    #58384

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    Boerge, here’s the picture you sent. It looks awesome!

    #58420
    cricket
    cricket
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    The colors look neat.  I’m all for synthetic bow hair, if it lasts longer and could be cheaper and plays ok.  I have a weird bow I bought a few years back called an incredibow.  Don’t know if I ever mentioned it here…it’s the one I’ve used to bow my guitar when I’ve had to do that. It’s all synthetic stuff…no wood, no hair…it’s made so that you never tighten or loosen, and it arches out the opposite way from regular bows.  I like how it plays ok, but two things I’m not so crazy about…one, since you can’t adjust th3 tension, it feels tightened too much for me…the other, it doesn’t exactly have a frog, so the way I hold the bow ( probably all wrong), it gets uncomfortable in m6 hand after a few minutes.  But it’s supposed to be very durable and last at least four years of consistent playing.  One of these days I should use it in a YouTube to show it off, if my iPad holds up and let’s me do that, and if there’s time, etc.! For all of that.  Anybody else have an incredibow?

    #58421
    cricket
    cricket
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    JUst found their website…hmmm…they had stopped production for a while, but looks like they are back in business.  I’m tempted to try to switch over, get used to them, because I buy cheapie bows and the hair rips out easily, then I’m stuck with a house full of ratty, unusable bows and one or two cheapies in use at a time.  The ruggedness of the incredibow appeals to me, especially since I never found local music stores that carry fiddling supplies and I get tired of having to order stuff.

    http://www.incredibow.com

    • This reply was modified 7 months ago by cricket cricket.
    #58449

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    Cricket, I remember when you first mentioned your incredibow. I’m glad to hear it is working out! I guess not having to include a tension adjustor makes it even cheaper.

    #60751

    Still happy with my blue bowhair….. couldn’t break any… I tried hard as possible to do, but They survivle 🙂

     

    #60752
    Steve Srader
    Steve Srader
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    So how does it compare to horse hair on ease to play double stops !

    #60753
    cricket
    cricket
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    I’m all for synthetic bow hair.  I’ve had so many bows that just start breaking immediately…I’m on a low budget, so I figure it’s easier to replace worn cheapie bows with other cheapie bows…as a result I’ve got a lot of no good bows in various conditions.  Mike bought some synthetic bow hair and one of these days if there’s ever time he’s gonna try to rehair one of those bows.  My first incredibow, synthetic hair, stick, everything, has lasted several years now with all the hairs intact.  It does have a slightly different sound, but to my ear it records better than the cheap horsehair bows…of course, cheap horse hair bows might have the wrong type of horse hair too.  Still…as much as people cling to tradition, I think sometimes there are modern solutions that are more practical.

    #60777

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    I have a bow with synthetic hair which lasts and lasts and lasts. It’s not my favorite but then again it’s probably the cheapest. As far as I know I’ve never broken a hair on it, which is saying a lot. I am really hard on bows.

    #60778

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    Boerge, it’s great to hear from you. I’m glad the blue bow is still going strong!

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