Wagon Wheel

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  • #22126
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    John (BGD)
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    Finally, a lesson for this oft requested tune.

    Wagon Wheel

    #22128
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    capt.krasno
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    Woo!

    #22132
    peggys
    peggys
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    That was great John!  I’m a tad bit nervous about changing tunings but I would like to try it.  Maybe I’ll tune Kevin Bacon to AEAE and leave my baby in standard tuning…at least with the electric fiddle not plugged in I won’t offend any ears ;)

    #22135
    nagumaq
    nagumaq
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    Wow zeee , very nice tune. Love the way you sing it John !
    Thanks to whoever requested the song and meny blessings for the lesson.
    Thanks
    Gu

    #22137
    Rock
    Rock
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    Wow!!! John, sweet! :)

    #22149
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    John (BGD)
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    Thanks! It is out of my low vocal range when I do it in the key of A.

    Here is a tip: If you have a lower voice like mine, you can tune the high strings down to G and D instead of tuning the low strings up to A and E. Then you are tuned GDGD which is called g-cross-tuning or sawmill tuning. Then the band can play the song in G which is not so high.

    Speaking of not so high, I did say “nice long talk” in that video. I learned that from my band-mate Dustin. :)

    #22155
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    Angela
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    Looking forward to learning this one.  I’ve been playing around with your freeform version some.  This will make it a little easier.

    Thanks for the lyric adjustment…just can’t see the original coming from you…or me! :^)

    #22178
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    Kaeleigh
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    I’m really excited about learning this one! Yay! My family and I have been singing this for years, My Dad changed the lyrics a bit too, but I couldn’t quite get the fiddle part! Thank you :)

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    Kaeleigh
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    I must confess, though, that I’m a bit nervous about tuning the fiddle to A. Couldn’t it possibly be detrimental to the instrument, to tune the strings up a whole step?

    #22182
    nagumaq
    nagumaq
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    [quote=22179]possibly be detrimental[/quote]
    I wonder A ? What does detrimental mean , it sounds like death trimental yikes ! No , I wouldnt think so Kaeleigh , people been tunning up and down for centuries and I guess I would just have to add, like meny teachers out there have said before , before putting your fiddle away tune all your strings down a half step and you keep both the fiddle and your strings to last longer :O)
    Just a tip, if you are tunning up or down a lot , try to lubricate your nut and bridge where the strings touch ,because if the string has friction it can be failled , resulting in a string that has bezar high overtones .And it minimalises the chances of your bridge moving as well.When tunning up, the bridge can sometimes want to bend over twards the neck but I would not worry about just tunning up a tone :O)

    #22195
    Justine
    Justine
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    Thanks for the advice, Gu. Also, if you have more than one violin, you can cross tune one of them and leave the other in standard tuning. I am glad to know that changing by one tone will not stress the violin.

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    John (BGD)
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    Good advice Gu. Kaeleigh, we would love to hear your version! I think I am going to record this on again in the key of G (sawmill tuning) for the sake of my voice.

    Tuning up does stress the string beyond their designed tension, but it should be safe. It even makes the strings sound brighter and more exciting. Tuning down, to me, makes the strings lose brightness.

    Yeah, the “toke” line is a little too juvenile for me. I’ll admit I change lyrics of songs a lot to make them fit my situation a little better. Then I can sing the words with a more feeling. I thought about changing the lyrics to say “west TO the Cumberland Gap THROUGH Johnson City, TN” instead of the other way around just so the geography would make sense, then I decided just to leave it. Hey, it was written by a 17 year old kid whose main goal was to include the state capital and the state flower. You have to love that.

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    Kaeleigh
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    With Ashokan Farewell behind me, I started this right away this morning! So fun! And not quite as hard as I thought. :) I tuned up my fiddle and love the sound! I’m not sure what key my family plays it in, but wouldn’t it be just the same in cross-G?

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    John (BGD)
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    Yep — one of the cool things about tablature (as opposed to notation) is it looks the same whether your are in cross-A or cross-G.

    #22429
    Great Scott
    Great Scott
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    John, I overlooked this one, and so I apologize for my late comment.

    Brilliant as always; and such a great catchy tune with some great singing. Love that voice! And despite the throat problem, I thought you still sounded GREAT!!! :)

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    dlsada
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    Worth the price of the subscription! Thanks for that effort!!

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    John (BGD)
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    Thanks Great Scott and dlsada! I want to keep my subscribers happy. :)

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    Angela
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    I’m working on this.  I’m using the standard tuning notation you have and also trying to mix it up with your Amantha Mill versions.  :^)

    Darius Rucker’s fiddle player has some licks that sound a lot like your AM version.  I don’t think he’s crossed tuned.  Is he?

    #23766
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    John (BGD)
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    No, the fiddler in the Darius Rucker version is not cross-tuned. I’ll tab that one out!

    #23780
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    Angela
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    Working on the fiddle got me interested in recapturing my guitar skills (which were pretty low).  But, I’ve been practicing on that some and can get around most any song now.

    I have a brother who’s been messing with guitar for awhile now.

    Last weekend, we had our first-ever family campfire singalong!!!  woohoo

    When Wagon Wheel rolled around, I whipped out the fiddle and played a little.  Couldn’t do the whole thing but got far enough that the younguns were impressed.  :^)

    I’ve been a little inundated with work, so my fiddling progress is creeping right now, but I’m still having fun and learning.

    Thanks John!!!!!

    Angela

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    John (BGD)
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    Angela, that sounds awesome! A family campfire singalong. Love it! And yes, “Wagon Wheel” does impress the kids. :)

    #24275
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    John (BGD)
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    The Darius Rucker version of Wagon Wheel is no on the Sheet Music page. Thank you Arwen!

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    HeyMikey
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    Awesome, I’ve been afraid to try to tune up again since I broke my D string.

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    John (BGD)
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    You are in luck — the Darius Rucker version is in standard (GDAE) tuning!

    #27163
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    ejstidham
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    I was wondering if the Darius version sounds the same as the cross tuned version. In other word could I use the Darius tabs and listen to the cross tuned video to hear how the song goes or are they played different?

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    nagumaq
    nagumaq
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    Thanks Arwen, your amazing !
    Gu

    #27194
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    John (BGD)
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    It is the same, for the most part. I have not yet created the backing tracks for the Rucker version. I will get it soon!

    #29843
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    ejstidham
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    Would it be possible to get a slow metronome version of the darius rucker version, I think I could figure it out( or pretty close ) if I could hear the fiddle parts, I know your busy, but if you could pretty please add it to your mountain pile of things to do…thx

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    ejstidham
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    I ment to say even if it was just the audio, and not a video..thx again

    #29858
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    John (BGD)
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    Yes — this will be the first thing I do after the 12 days of Christmas, if not sooner. Thanks for being patient!

    #29867
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    ejstidham
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    Thank you, I’m going to focus on this song since fall semester is over. It’s not easy being an old guy going back to school…lol

    #29903
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    John (BGD)
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    BGDU is always in session! :)

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    Steve Srader
    Steve Srader
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    Cricket this lesson should be right up your alley !???

    #70969
    cricket
    cricket
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    Love that sawmill tuning! They used to play it all the time at the BG jam around here.  I shoulda learned it a long time ago, when I went to that jam.  I’d never heard it before going to that jam.  They didn’t cross-tune, though.

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