Margaret’s Waltz

This is an online fiddle lesson for the tune "Margaret's Waltz" by Pat Shaw.

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Genre: Celtic, Old Time
Skill Level: Intermediate
Key of A

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Video #1: Here is a video of me performing the fiddle tune "Margaret's Waltz."

Video #2: Here is a video of me performing the beginner version of "Margaret's Waltz."

This is an online fiddle lesson for the tune "Margaret's Waltz." BluegrassDaddy.com is your best source for Bluegrass, Old-Time, Celtic, Gospel, and Country fiddle lessons! This is an online fiddle lesson for the tune "Margaret's Waltz." BluegrassDaddy.com is your best source for Bluegrass, Old-Time, Celtic, Gospel, and Country fiddle lessons!

Margaret's Waltz is an English fiddle tune. It was written by Pat Shaw on the retirement of Margaret Grant as president from the Devon EFDSS (English Folk Dance and Song Society) in 1959 and performed at the Sidmouth Folk Festival. A dance was also composed in 1959 to accompany the tune.  Aly Bain made it famous through a Boys of the Lough recording hence the reason why it is often thought of as from Shetland. The song became popular in Old Time circles due to the play of the late J. P. Fraley, a Kentucky fiddler who learned the song from Aly Bain. (tunearch.org)

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  • #6387

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    Margaret’s Waltz
    This is always a favorite at my summer Fiddle Camp.

    https://bluegrassdaddy.com/margarets-waltz-fiddle-lesson/

    #6388

    delma trevino
    Participant

    love the way you play Margaret’s waltz trying to learn it

    #6389

    hizaleus
    Participant

    I was a little surprised to see this tune listed as Celtic, being familiar with it from Contradance music. I’m grateful for your stories about the origin of tunes. Many tunes believed to be traditional are recent compositions by known individuals. It puts into perspective the attitudes of some “purists.”

    #6390

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    Thank you! I use the word “celtic” to group tunes that come from nations or people who are considered to be Celtic. This means I will include some modern and also some eastern Canadian tunes in the group. I hope I don’t offend anyone! 🙂

    #7469
    peggys
    peggys
    Participant

    I don’t see the video for this one John. I’ve refreshed the page just in case it was my computer…I picked this one up a while ago but have never tried it in public, still need a little work on the bowing to smooth it out.

    Thanks,
    Peggy

    #15954
    Rock
    Rock
    Participant

    Hey John, Love the green background!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

    #15957
    nagumaq
    nagumaq
    Participant

    YEEAHH ! WoW, that was cool. Soooooo nice John ! That was amazing version of the song. Don t think I would of heard it if it wasn’t for Rock mentioning the color ! Thanks Rock ! And true to what Rock said, the colors there are warm and well nice . This was a year ago ! Changes changes changes , time time time traveling through music… Ahhhh , I m loving this .
    Thanks BGD
    Gu

    #15959

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    Haha well I was going to try a “green screen” effect and put an interesting background behind me, but I just wasn’t satisfied with it. So I just left it green! Great Scott has requested the beginner version of this song as well, so I’ll be teaching that soon.

    #15968

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    The problem is the green reflection on my face. When I put in a cool background, it partially shows through me. This could probably be fixed with proper back lighting, but my recording space isn’t deep enough for that. 🙁

    #15970

    Angela
    Participant

    I was thinking of getting a green screen to use when I post to the Lion’s Den. Then, I was going to add a great, dream backup band behind me. :^D

    #15972

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    Hahaha now that is an awesome idea. Please put yourself on stage with the Nashville Bluegrass Band while fiddling “Jingle Bells!”

    #16046

    Highlonsome
    Participant

    Now that’s some smooth fiddle playing!  I really love this  song.  John your fiddle  sounds awesome  I could listen to you play for hours.  Wait a minute I already do.  Hope your having a great new year. Take care.

    #16050

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    Thanks Highlonsome!

    #16051
    Justine
    Justine
    Participant

    Margaret’s Waltz is beautiful, John but I probably need the beginner’s version.

    #17199
    Great Scott
    Great Scott
    Moderator

    John — I was thinking:  If I got the tabs for Margaret’s Waltz and tried to play it in a simplified beginners form by whiting out all the ornaments etc, would it then sound anything like MW in your opinion? –especially when a beginner is playing it.  Because there is no beginner lesson, the omitting of all the ornaments etc, seems like the way to learn the basics of the tune, but I wonder if it would wreck an otherwise beautiful tune; after all, it is the ornamentation that makes it what it is.  I have tried to follow your Youtube lesson on it (lesson from circa 2009) but I get a little lost because I can’t always see your correct fingering and notes in the video).  Just wondering?  Do you think it would be worth learning without all the frilly bits?

     

    #17264

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    Definitely!

    But, I tabbed a beginner version today, and it will be an easy lesson. I’ll try to make a video lesson tonight and post it tomorrow.

    #17364
    Great Scott
    Great Scott
    Moderator

    Thank you, John! Very much appreciated!

    #17370

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    Scott, I had a software glitch that I had to fix today, but I am uploading the new metronome videos right now. The beginner version should be all ready to go by early tomorrow! John

    #17622
    Great Scott
    Great Scott
    Moderator

    John, I just want to thank you for uploading “Margaret’s Waltz”. I got to watch it just now and it is fab, fab, FABULOUS! Really nice job! Sounds SOOOOOOO sweet!

    #17637

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    You are welcome! I’m just happy to have a beginner version out there. The timing and ornamentation on the Aly Bain version beautiful, but a real buzz-kill if you are just getting started and want to play a beautiful waltz.

    #24625

    fiddleathome
    Participant

    Hi, the intermediate beginner version with metronome video isn’t working, I see a URL but it doesn’t work for me.

     

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    #24635
    Great Scott
    Great Scott
    Moderator

    Howdy Fiddleathome, and welcome to the best fiddle site on the planet!

    I don’t know what the problem could be.  I just now checked all of John’s beginner videos for Margaret’s Waltz and they all worked fine.

    Are your cookies enabled in your browser.  Sometimes this will be the problem in some browsers.

    Try signing in through another web browser (Firefox, Opera, etc.) and then go to the lessons page and see if you can watch the videos.  Other than that, I can’t think of anything else that would be preventing you from watching the videos.  Please come back and post if you are still experiencing problems.

    Scott

    #24640

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    Thanks for tips, Scott!

    Fiddleathome, can you give it another try? I made a change that might fix the link in some browsers.

    #24679

    fiddleathome
    Participant

    John – That fixed it.  Thanks.

     

    #24680

    fiddleathome
    Participant

    Hi Scott, thanks for the suggestions.  I’m using Firefox.  John’s ‘fix’ solved the problem for me, must be a browser incompatibility issue, those are killer sometimes.

    I joined in order to learn cotton eyed joe, but I think it’s just too hard for me (the double stops part).  So then I thought I’d try a beginner waltz, which is too easy for me, but the intermediate version is too hard.  so I’m a bit confused. 🙂

     

     

    #24684

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    Sometimes it can be a jump from the beginner to the intermediate version! I need to publish a suggested “path” based on difficulty.

    #25263
    Rock
    Rock
    Participant

    John, I’ve been having trouble with the timing of 1-0 2-0 3-0 2-0 etc.
    I’m thinking of picturing someone juggling, what do you think?

    #25269

    John Cockman
    Keymaster

    Rock, I’m delighted you are learning this song!

    I think you are talking about measures 18-19. These are eighth notes, so they are just as fast as all the other eighth notes. The best thing I can tell you is to listen to Vido #4, the beginner metronome video, starting around the 1:30 mark.

    #25279
    Rock
    Rock
    Participant

    Thanks John, will do!

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